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how they came here from or from kyrgyzstan were they born in kyrgyzstan. listen no i don't say losers i'm saying those were able to make this a thorough city are only losers that's what i say there's no way did that. do you. think. you know no one. really respects our property. again with the families of. those who suffered. we're sharing with them with their grief i'm really just to meet with them i'm ready just to bend in front of them to kneel in front of them seeking forgiveness again and tell me it is in here in the name of the family. so that's what i would say. here. in the russian. group right we've just been listening right now to the boston marathon suspects uncle ruslan that sonnie who said that the family has not been in touch with us and neither the family for a very long time he went on to say that in two thousand and three these had neither family received asylum to go to the united states. they of course came later and he said that he rejects any chechnya ling's that that that have been linked to to these suspects to chechnya he also went o
how they came here from or from kyrgyzstan were they born in kyrgyzstan. listen no i don't say losers i'm saying those were able to make this a thorough city are only losers that's what i say there's no way did that. do you. think. you know no one. really respects our property. again with the families of. those who suffered. we're sharing with them with their grief i'm really just to meet with them i'm ready just to bend in front of them to kneel in front of them seeking forgiveness again and...
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>> they came here from kyrgyzstan. >> where were they born? >> in kyrgyzstan. pardon me? i don't say losers. i'm saying those who are able to make this atrocity are only losers. that's what i say. there's no idea that they may follow. thank you. >> do you consider them terrorists? >> i work. thank you very much. a 26-year-old tsarnaev, the younger suspect, is at large right now. people are wondering his brother is the father of these two suspects, he must have shortened his name from tsarnaev to tsarni. but he's insisting these two brothers if in fact they did commit these crimes, these bombings at the boston marathon have brought shame, shame to the family, shame to all the people of chechnya, shame to muslims. >> he's also saying his nephew, the suspect, should turn himself in, ask for forgiveness. he says they're a disgrace to the family. i misheard the first time i was listening to this. he says he spoke to his brother, the suspect's father, three months ago. but he hasn't spoken to the boys in quite some time. so he doesn't understand how this happened, but he believ
>> they came here from kyrgyzstan. >> where were they born? >> in kyrgyzstan. pardon me? i don't say losers. i'm saying those who are able to make this atrocity are only losers. that's what i say. there's no idea that they may follow. thank you. >> do you consider them terrorists? >> i work. thank you very much. a 26-year-old tsarnaev, the younger suspect, is at large right now. people are wondering his brother is the father of these two suspects, he must have...
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one is born in kyrgyzstan. and, so, they are from that region, but have been here for a decade. >> now, the associated press claims they've interviewed their father in russia. so, that would sort of conflict, that would conflict with this idea that the family is here in the united states. >> not necessarily. it would indicate that the family came in 2002. he may have returned to russia. that's a part of the puzzle we don't have. but we know for certain that the two brothers have been here for a decade. >> and there's been some question about their residency status. definitely know that the older brother was a legal resident or is that still unclear? >> legal, permanent resident, yes. >> and the other, dzhokhar the person you're looking at on the screen. did plant the second bomb. he was a resident of cambridge, but his precise immigration status is unclear. >> and what do we know about the two people brought into custody? not much more beyond that? >> again, that's not in my reporting. i'm just not sure what th
one is born in kyrgyzstan. and, so, they are from that region, but have been here for a decade. >> now, the associated press claims they've interviewed their father in russia. so, that would sort of conflict, that would conflict with this idea that the family is here in the united states. >> not necessarily. it would indicate that the family came in 2002. he may have returned to russia. that's a part of the puzzle we don't have. but we know for certain that the two brothers have...
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>> they came here from kyrgyzstan. >> where were they born? >> in kyrgyzstan. no, they're losers. i'm saying those available to make this tragedy are only losers. that's what i say. there's no idea that they may follow. thank you. >> would you consider them terrorists? >> huh? >> i woshlg. i work. i have legal background. thank you very much. >>> one more thing, from now on, i clearly ask you to respect our property. again, we're the families of -- i mean, those who suffered, we share with them their grief. i'm ready just to meet with them. i'm ready just to bend in front of them. to kneel in front of them seeking their forgiveness. again, on an entire -- in the name of our country -- of the families, so that's what i say. thank you. please. please. >> you've got to give me a little room. what? >> all right, we've just been listening to the uncle, the uncle of these two brothers. the uncle, chris, clearly upset saying these two brothers, one of whom are now dead, is a loser -- they're losers. >> he said he spoke to them three months ago. no indication of this. has nothing do with
>> they came here from kyrgyzstan. >> where were they born? >> in kyrgyzstan. no, they're losers. i'm saying those available to make this tragedy are only losers. that's what i say. there's no idea that they may follow. thank you. >> would you consider them terrorists? >> huh? >> i woshlg. i work. i have legal background. thank you very much. >>> one more thing, from now on, i clearly ask you to respect our property. again, we're the families of -- i...
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one in kyrgyzstan, one in russia. but both have been legal, permanent residents of the united states for sometime. perhaps up to a decade -- hold on, richard. hold that thought. back to kerry sanders. >> i'm not sure how long i'm going to be able to stay here so i wanted to stop for a moment. we don't want to give out too much information but i can tell you four stories up we have snipers that have taken up positions and down this street as i step out of the way, see what kind of zoom you can do there. i know it is a long way from where we were. but you can see many police officers cars. there is one black car to the left. it is beyond that on the left hand side, another half or so block down that i saw the person on the ground. what we are trying to do is see if we can move the camera to our rye here and see if any kind of picture comes in that explains the situation to you. okay. so here's what we are looking at. you see the white car and there's the police officer's car who is just turning in to the shot of the oth
one in kyrgyzstan, one in russia. but both have been legal, permanent residents of the united states for sometime. perhaps up to a decade -- hold on, richard. hold that thought. back to kerry sanders. >> i'm not sure how long i'm going to be able to stay here so i wanted to stop for a moment. we don't want to give out too much information but i can tell you four stories up we have snipers that have taken up positions and down this street as i step out of the way, see what kind of zoom you...
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i talked to the kyrgyzstan government. they confirm that both brothers had kyrgyz passports before they got green cards and moved to the u.s. the interesting thing is that the two republics where these young men were believed to have roots before they got to the u.s., chechnya and kyrgyzstan, both of those governments are seeking to distance themselves from the tsarnaev brothers. the kyrgyz government has issued a statement saying, listen these two guys left our country more than 12 years ago. we're not responsible for their actions. meanwhile, the president of the republic of chechnya, he's gone one step further saying these guys were never known really in chechnya, they got their education in the u.s., they were raised there, and whatever evil they may have committed, well, that came from america. anderson? >> ivan, chechnya -- chechen rebels, terrorists from chechnya, were responsible for the movie theater hostage taking in moscow several years ago. i believe more than -- dozens of people were killed in that, i can't re
i talked to the kyrgyzstan government. they confirm that both brothers had kyrgyz passports before they got green cards and moved to the u.s. the interesting thing is that the two republics where these young men were believed to have roots before they got to the u.s., chechnya and kyrgyzstan, both of those governments are seeking to distance themselves from the tsarnaev brothers. the kyrgyz government has issued a statement saying, listen these two guys left our country more than 12 years ago....
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instead, they were born here, in kyrgyzstan. exactly how they got to kyrgyzstan and at what point, not clear, but we know they left in 2002-2003 coming to the united states. now, the older brother tamerlan, 26, now dead, we know that in january of last year, he flew from jfk to moscow. he was over there for six months, returned from moscow to jfk in july. we don't know what happened there, except that he visited his father. scroll back down, we move south back to that region. there's chechnya. that's where his father is right now. he gave an interview to russian tv today. his father says his sons have been framed, at least that's what he believe. if you are from that region, it is muslim. what we do not know is if there is any direct connection between these individuals. one of the key movements there have disavowed them, so they're not connected in any way. the reason that they're of chechen decent is why we have focus sod much on this area of the world today. >> michelle, people have been wondering all day, the chechen fight h
instead, they were born here, in kyrgyzstan. exactly how they got to kyrgyzstan and at what point, not clear, but we know they left in 2002-2003 coming to the united states. now, the older brother tamerlan, 26, now dead, we know that in january of last year, he flew from jfk to moscow. he was over there for six months, returned from moscow to jfk in july. we don't know what happened there, except that he visited his father. scroll back down, we move south back to that region. there's chechnya....
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a resident of cambridge, born in kyrgyzstan. his brother, the deceased, tamerlan born in russia and he, according to reports, became a legal permanent resident in 2007. and they came with their family to the u.s. in 2002 or 2003 and now a third person taken into custody from their home. so, the story is expanding. there are now three people involved, potentially, one deceased of the two suspects. >> one deceased. but we should point out, the city remains on lock down. >> incredible. >> the city of boston and all the other communities. listen to law enforcement and authorities there because we have not pinpointed where this suspect is. >> as you can imagine, former homeland security commissioners and terrorism experts, our own pete williams, nobody has ever covered or worked a scene like this before. because it's never happened. it's unprecedented. you have an entire city basically put in fear. we have five other remaining towns locked down. we have one town, the scene of a shootout that doesn't even compare to the wild west and
a resident of cambridge, born in kyrgyzstan. his brother, the deceased, tamerlan born in russia and he, according to reports, became a legal permanent resident in 2007. and they came with their family to the u.s. in 2002 or 2003 and now a third person taken into custody from their home. so, the story is expanding. there are now three people involved, potentially, one deceased of the two suspects. >> one deceased. but we should point out, the city remains on lock down. >> incredible....
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did they go back to kyrgyzstan? you have to look at the possibility they weren't trained overseas, they could have done the training over the internet. i was going to say i have been in touch with the region who are lock in their houses, this particular friend said that he just took a drive-around, a total ghost town in my neighborhood, no people visible. everything is locked off. it's absolutely surreal. it's like the wild west. >> live pictures from watertown right now. we just lost the photo there. martha, let me ask you another question, we may be able to report anything like this, yet, if these young men had traveled back to chechnya or russia in recent years, authorities would know that by now, correct? >> they would know that. at least they're scrambling to find that out. i think they would be pretty easy information to get away, they could check their passports. they were in america, in boston, for 10, 12 years the younger man and five years for the older brother. that's something else that the people i have
did they go back to kyrgyzstan? you have to look at the possibility they weren't trained overseas, they could have done the training over the internet. i was going to say i have been in touch with the region who are lock in their houses, this particular friend said that he just took a drive-around, a total ghost town in my neighborhood, no people visible. everything is locked off. it's absolutely surreal. it's like the wild west. >> live pictures from watertown right now. we just lost the...
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we were lucky to take him out of kyrgyzstan alive. that's when they came. april 2002. >> did you ever talk to them about living in america? did they like it? what did they tell you? >> they always like it, you know. they liked it, they lived there. they didn't like it, they would leave. >> did they tell you anything about their life in boston? >> kids' lives, freedom, that's what it is. kids, as soon as they know, they are free, they do whatever they want, they don't listen to their parents, especially when they grow up. so that's it. i didn't say he was struggling. i said it seemed like he wanted to find out what he wants. but at that age, all they want is love. so he found his love. he marries, he had a daughter and he was happy about his daughter. >> which one are you talking about? >> older one. >> tamerlan. >> they moved to canada first and then to boston. >> i didn't say he came to canada first, guys, listen. they came to the states. to the states. in 2002. first parents came. mother and father and dzhokhar, when he was little. three kids were back ho
we were lucky to take him out of kyrgyzstan alive. that's when they came. april 2002. >> did you ever talk to them about living in america? did they like it? what did they tell you? >> they always like it, you know. they liked it, they lived there. they didn't like it, they would leave. >> did they tell you anything about their life in boston? >> kids' lives, freedom, that's what it is. kids, as soon as they know, they are free, they do whatever they want, they don't...
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evidently, they left that area because of the gruesome conflict there and ended up in kyrgyzstan before they moved on to the u.s. as far as how long ago they left that central asian republic, i talked to one of the leaders of the ethnic chechen community in kyrgyzstan and he said that we have not seen anybody from the tsarnaev family in more than ten years. so whatever happened seems to have taken place while they were in the u.s. >>> one other tidbit, just to give you an indicator of how deep their roots were in the u.s., we know that the eldest brother, dzhokhar -- i'm sorry, tamerlan, he competed in the golden gloves boxing championship in salt lake city in 2009. chris? >> thank you very much. that's helpful information in term that is they've been here for a long time. there seems to be no real connection back to where they came from. so whatever happened with these two, seems to be it happened here. >> i want to bring in jim walsh now. he's a professor at m.i.t. you know, your office, jim, is right next to where this went down last night as we were watching building 32 at that time
evidently, they left that area because of the gruesome conflict there and ended up in kyrgyzstan before they moved on to the u.s. as far as how long ago they left that central asian republic, i talked to one of the leaders of the ethnic chechen community in kyrgyzstan and he said that we have not seen anybody from the tsarnaev family in more than ten years. so whatever happened seems to have taken place while they were in the u.s. >>> one other tidbit, just to give you an indicator of...
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stunning two thousand and one here's more about their this family's brief time in russia's republic of kyrgyzstan. rolled into the first green and after just a year he left. his family's from kurdistan there were flu children in sam only to see them to draw in two thousand and one he entered the school and in two thousand and two they left for the u.s. to. authorities have told the media here that the band arrived in the u.s. in two thousand and three approximately at that time their reporter there reportedly us permanent residents it's all very sketchy at this point it's a very fast developing story so we're going to be we're going to try and verify those reports to the suspect who was killed earlier tonight is reported to be joker's twenty six year old brother to madeleine sorrow of what more do we know about them while the elder brother who was killed had a you tube page apparently he was very religious there are suggestions that the brothers were influenced by radical islam we don't know whether they received some kind of training abroad or those are homegrown terrorists the bombs that they d
stunning two thousand and one here's more about their this family's brief time in russia's republic of kyrgyzstan. rolled into the first green and after just a year he left. his family's from kurdistan there were flu children in sam only to see them to draw in two thousand and one he entered the school and in two thousand and two they left for the u.s. to. authorities have told the media here that the band arrived in the u.s. in two thousand and three approximately at that time their reporter...
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one other thing, he spent, at the most, a few months in chechnya: he was born in kyrgyzstan where serbians were shipped by stalin in 1994. it's clear from his web page, it's, you know, russian equivalent of the facebook clear that was romanticizing his historic, sort of spiritual mother land and all the abuse that it took from russia and all the struggle for islam went with that. >> bret: tamerlan is derevived from item -- tamerlane, final thoughts general and then charles? >> this is going to take us relook how we are doing here and certainly process and procedures. overall we are probably going to feel pretty good. american people are going to have a sense of awareness about events like this. i think we can go on with our lives to be quite frank about it i think we have the resilience to do that have to take a hard look internationally though in terms of what is going on with our strategy dealing with international terrorism, the al qaeda specifically. i think the initial strategy was fine. the rise of al qaeda in the region needs to be relooked. i don't think we have an effective strate
one other thing, he spent, at the most, a few months in chechnya: he was born in kyrgyzstan where serbians were shipped by stalin in 1994. it's clear from his web page, it's, you know, russian equivalent of the facebook clear that was romanticizing his historic, sort of spiritual mother land and all the abuse that it took from russia and all the struggle for islam went with that. >> bret: tamerlan is derevived from item -- tamerlane, final thoughts general and then charles? >> this...
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we know that they were in kyrgyzstan, we know that they were also in davistan. so you're still affected by the echoes of work and the politics in the region. so that could be the link that we have, that this is a psychological response to many years of war. it could also be a political ideological response. we don't know yet, if at all, that there are any links between the chechen radicals that still exist as part of the insurgency or, for that matter, for any of the networks that exist in other regions. now, you have to understand that this is a very unusual event if that were the case. because chechen separatists have not taken their struggle outside of the russian federation. so if they were to make this strategic movement by using young men instrumentally and politically, then we -- i would really be wondering why. >> right. >> because it hasn't happened in the past. >> well, what's your sense of a network of terrorism network, associated with these two individuals? i mean, law enforcement officials seem to be downplaying the idea of accomplices here and are
we know that they were in kyrgyzstan, we know that they were also in davistan. so you're still affected by the echoes of work and the politics in the region. so that could be the link that we have, that this is a psychological response to many years of war. it could also be a political ideological response. we don't know yet, if at all, that there are any links between the chechen radicals that still exist as part of the insurgency or, for that matter, for any of the networks that exist in...
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dzhokah tsarnaev was born in kyrgyzstan, he came to the united states with his older brother, tamerlan a decade ago. the two lived together in cambridge, the suspect who was killed in a shutout this morning, tamerlan is a tsarnaev was 26. in 2007 he became a legal resident in america, he was a student at bunker hill community college and competitive boxer. this violent and drautic series of events was not set off by police, but by the suspects themselves, who were apparently trying to escape law enforcement. here's how it played out. around 10:00 p.m. last night, the suspects robbed a store. they then proceeded to fatally shoot an m.i.t. security officer and hijack a mercedes suv. the owner of that vehicle was held hostage for half an hour while the two brothers pulled $800 out of an atm. they released the owner of the mercedes unharmed. police chased the suspects into watertown, where this shootout took place. the suspects exchanged fire with police and threw explosives towards them. at one point, tamerlan sarn ev got out of the car wearing an ied strapped to his chest and was shot by
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he was born in the former soviet republic of kyrgyzstan. his family is chechnyan. he became an american citizen last year on 9/11. authorities are searching house to house in the boston suburb of watertown where he's believed to be holed up. older brother, suspect number one was killed last night in a shootout with police. nbc news reports that at that shootout, 200 rounds were exchanged. and before that happened, he and his brother killed a security officer at m.i.t. held a man captive after carjacking him. and severely wounded another police officer. the older brother, tamerlan tsarnaev, was 26. nbc news learned he spent six months last year outside of the country. authorities are still piecing together where he went and what he did during that time. there are many questions tonight. joining me to help answer them is nbc investigative correspondent michael isikoff and former director of the national counterterrorism center michael leiter. and former fbi profiler clint van zandt. let me start with michael leiter. the other day, it seems like a year ago, two, three
he was born in the former soviet republic of kyrgyzstan. his family is chechnyan. he became an american citizen last year on 9/11. authorities are searching house to house in the boston suburb of watertown where he's believed to be holed up. older brother, suspect number one was killed last night in a shootout with police. nbc news reports that at that shootout, 200 rounds were exchanged. and before that happened, he and his brother killed a security officer at m.i.t. held a man captive after...
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they were refugees from kyrgyzstan to dagestan at one point. they got this chance to come to the u.s. together and really make it in life. nobody is really talking to each other. some of the family members said, several, in fact, said they hadn't talked to these two young men in years. some of them said that they were shocked by this. although how shocked can you be when during this formative period where a young man is shaping his future, you haven't spoken to him in several years? not really knowing what was going on in their lives other than what maybe they've heard years ago. so you know there was some kind of rift in the family. in fact, the two uncles that were interviewed today really spoke to that saying, well, there was trouble. i don't want to get into it. but we're not speaking to that side of the family. i think what was maybe most interesting was that the "boston globe" interviewed this man who said he was a cousin. the same age, in fact, as tamerlan. in dagestan. and he told the "globe" he was worried about the older brother being
they were refugees from kyrgyzstan to dagestan at one point. they got this chance to come to the u.s. together and really make it in life. nobody is really talking to each other. some of the family members said, several, in fact, said they hadn't talked to these two young men in years. some of them said that they were shocked by this. although how shocked can you be when during this formative period where a young man is shaping his future, you haven't spoken to him in several years? not really...
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according to sources that are quoted in dagastan, this family had moved from kyrgyzstan to dagastan in 2001 as refugees. they're granted asylum in the u.s. two parents, two sons, two daughters. they basically you might say they attained the american dream. they moved from an extremely troubled part of the world and they get the chance to come to the united states where it seems they do great. these two young men went to schools. the youngest one going to the university of massachusetts. doing well. participating in sports. having friends. winning awards. all of that stuff that you might say set them on the path for this great potential. you also see these rifts coming out now. "the boston globe" was able to interview someone who identified themselves as a cousin of these two who is in dag delawaastan a said he warned the younger brother about the older brother. worried, he claims, he was causing trouble in the family, that he seems to be a bad influence on the younger one. then you hear from a sister, a quote from her. this is the sister in new jersey who says, i'm not okay. no one is
according to sources that are quoted in dagastan, this family had moved from kyrgyzstan to dagastan in 2001 as refugees. they're granted asylum in the u.s. two parents, two sons, two daughters. they basically you might say they attained the american dream. they moved from an extremely troubled part of the world and they get the chance to come to the united states where it seems they do great. these two young men went to schools. the youngest one going to the university of massachusetts. doing...
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they came from turkistan and from kyrgyzstan and they left chechnya and other members in russian facebook page that s dzhokhar went to first grade in dagestan as well so they had been in several of these republics. to brad garrett, former special agent of the fbi now an abc news consultant so, brad, we're learning more and more about the background of dzhokhar tsarnaev and i have to say at least from what we're hearing so far, it doesn't seem to point in the direction of violence in any way at all and does that surprise you and what is the fbi do with information like that? >> well, first of all, it doesn't surprise me and here is the reason why, is that people who are driven by philosophical extremism not a serial killer, not those type of people, they -- what they do is they can sort of bifurcate their life and lead a normal life and go to school, do the things that everyone else does, wrestling, social events and then they have this other side, this other thing that sort of building in their life and my guess is he's so young, we don't know how ng he's been involved in this. somebody s
they came from turkistan and from kyrgyzstan and they left chechnya and other members in russian facebook page that s dzhokhar went to first grade in dagestan as well so they had been in several of these republics. to brad garrett, former special agent of the fbi now an abc news consultant so, brad, we're learning more and more about the background of dzhokhar tsarnaev and i have to say at least from what we're hearing so far, it doesn't seem to point in the direction of violence in any way at...
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>> they came here from kyrgyzstan. >> where were they born? >> in kyrgyzstan. i wouldn't say losers. i say those able to make this are only losers. that's what i say. there's no idea that they may follow. >> what do you do for a living, sir? >> huh? >> i work, i work. thank you very much. >> from now on, i dearly ask you to respect our privacy. >> we've been listening to ruslan tzarni. >> as you just heard, the uncle of the suspects, ruslan tsarni saying this has nothing to do with chechnya. begging his nephews to turn themselves in. asking for forgiveness. saying they put shame on the entire ethnicity and adding to the theory, guys that these were two disgruntled kids who were unable to assimilate to u.s. culture. >> asked what possibly sparked this. he said they were never able to settle. everyone else did, but they were never able to do that. >> which argues the idea of nationalism that so many people had spoken about. that's what you could draw from what is happening. >> this is the same uncle who called them losers. distancing themselves from the individua
>> they came here from kyrgyzstan. >> where were they born? >> in kyrgyzstan. i wouldn't say losers. i say those able to make this are only losers. that's what i say. there's no idea that they may follow. >> what do you do for a living, sir? >> huh? >> i work, i work. thank you very much. >> from now on, i dearly ask you to respect our privacy. >> we've been listening to ruslan tzarni. >> as you just heard, the uncle of the suspects, ruslan...
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the family arrived as refugees in 2001 from neighboring kyrgyzstan. then they moved to the u.s. the family claimed asylum. his younger brother came first, authorities say, and became a citizen. tamerlan followed, and got a green card. his aunt, who lives in canada, said friday -- >> he had a daughter and he was very happy about his daughter. >> reporter: but police records show he was arrested for assaulting his girlfriend. his father said tamerlan quit school early to get married. according to a u.s. official, travel records show tamerlan flew to russia in january 2012 and returned to the u.s. six months later. his father insisted his sons had nothing to do with the bombing. >> translator: someone framed them. i don't know who exactly did it. but someone did. will being cowards, they shot the boy dead. there are cops like this. >> reporter: but his uncle in maryland says, the brothers were losers, who were radicalized. >> being losers, hatred to those who were able to settle themselves. these are the only reasons i can imagine. anything else to religion with islam, it's a fraud
the family arrived as refugees in 2001 from neighboring kyrgyzstan. then they moved to the u.s. the family claimed asylum. his younger brother came first, authorities say, and became a citizen. tamerlan followed, and got a green card. his aunt, who lives in canada, said friday -- >> he had a daughter and he was very happy about his daughter. >> reporter: but police records show he was arrested for assaulting his girlfriend. his father said tamerlan quit school early to get married....
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that would be north of afghanistan in russian countries or kyrgyzstan or turkmenistan but they may have spent some time in central asia. that is something authorities are going to need to look at before they moved ten years ago in 2003 to the united states. a very curious path for them out of chechnya the russian area that they lived, the border area of chechnya where they lived, bill. >> jennifer, in your time at the pentagon, i want to be very specific about this, and you answered part of that in your answer there, how often on issues of terrorism here in the u.s. or perhaps overseas in the wars that were prosecuted in iraq and now afghanistan would the issue of a chechen rebel terrorist come up? >> we heard others joining the fight in afghanistan and iraq and elsewhere a pipeline of chechen fighters join up with al qaeda linked groups? that is not unusual, our military and our special operations forces encountered chechens in many war zones since 9/11. that is not unusual. what is unusual to see two young men who spent most of their lives in the u.s., who were by all accounts, accord
that would be north of afghanistan in russian countries or kyrgyzstan or turkmenistan but they may have spent some time in central asia. that is something authorities are going to need to look at before they moved ten years ago in 2003 to the united states. a very curious path for them out of chechnya the russian area that they lived, the border area of chechnya where they lived, bill. >> jennifer, in your time at the pentagon, i want to be very specific about this, and you answered part...